Alicornutopia

Oh. Well, there we go. Next time I see a spot for one B.J. Britt is it.

Kappa wrote:Unrelatedly - we need a facecast for Bothari. Bothari is described variously as "hatchet-faced", "phenomenally ugly", and "like an overbred borzoi"; I don't remember any other descriptions offhand.

As I was reading I was envisioning him as similar in appearance to the Hound from Game of Thrones. However, the actor Rory McCann is actually decently good looking without the scar makeup and constant scowl, so not sure if you could get a good selection of faces.

Kappa wrote:Unrelatedly - we need a facecast for Bothari. Bothari is described variously as "hatchet-faced", "phenomenally ugly", and "like an overbred borzoi"; I don't remember any other descriptions offhand.

Maybe Steve Buscemi? There are lists of ugly actors also.

Re: Bell: Yay, a new altrace boybell! I will try to look for other boybells with the listed Bellish characterstics.

Re: Bothari: Adrian Brody's nose is basically perfect in my mind but he's already someone else plus every face he makes is too nice (I'm honestly not sure he's capable of making angry eyebrows). Adam Driver also has a good nose but his face is not long and skinny enough to be hatchety. Eric Balfour is the most "borzoi" looking actor I have managed to find after a short search. Vincent Schiavelli matches Bothari descriptions okay except he's too soft-looking - more like a basset hound than a borzoi. Not sure any of those three emote in sufficiently Bothari-esque ways. Maybe Sacha Baron Cohen? Will keep searching.

ETA:
Michael Bay has a pretty narrow face and a big long nose. He's not an actor so it might be hard to get emote-y images of him, though.
Benedict Cumberbatch? He's got a narrow, sharp face and could be described as borzoi-ish maybe. Is he someone yet?
I wish there were a male Sarah Jessica Parker, she's got a good nose/facial narrowness combo.
Recent pictures of Jake Gyllenhaal make him look kindof gaunt and haggard.

The Adrien Brody suggestion made me think of Richard Armitage, who I suspect would be perfect if he wasn't way, way too hot. I'm tempted to go with him anyway, because as disqualifying factors go, "too hot" is preferable to many of the things for which I rejected actors on that 50 Ugly Actors list - faces too blompy, highly incorrect nose configurations, looking too much like Dobby. A Bothari facecast, in my mind, should have a long narrowish face that is not very much wider at the top than the bottom, an excessive amount of thin, bladelike nose (visible breakages optional), a wide array of clean-shaven pictures available, and heavy (but not puffy) brows to glare at you from under.

Edit: Michael Bay is surprisingly well-qualified, except for not being an actor XD Benedict Cumberbatch is rejected on the grounds that his head is too balloonlike and his nose is not quite thin enough.

PlainDealingVillain wrote:

Kappa wrote:Unrelatedly - we need a facecast for Bothari. Bothari is described variously as "hatchet-faced", "phenomenally ugly", and "like an overbred borzoi"; I don't remember any other descriptions offhand.

Maybe Steve Buscemi? There are lists of ugly actors also.

Woah, that is a mean list.

Also new boybell face yay!

I sincerely hope Tamien is done editing that post :P

Wow, recent pictures of Jake Gyllenhaal are... I'm going to go with astonishingly Bothari-like. It's a pity he seems to have gotten that way for a role in a movie that's not out yet, so I'm unlikely to be able to acquire icons thereof anytime soon XD

I'm done editing the post now! :P

I agree that hotness should not disqualify a potential Bothari, both because it's really hard to find actually ugly actors (like, iirc Bothari's eyes are supposed to be at noticeably different heights, and it seems really unlikely that there are going to be actors with faces that asymmetric) and because explicitly casting someone because you think they are ugly seems mean?

Richard Armitage makes good faces and has possibly the most bladelike nose I've seen (excepting a couple people I know in person who have very very long skinny noses but I can't seem to find actors with noses like them >:|) however his face does not seem longish and narrowish enough, imo.

Michael Bay is surprisingly blade-nosed and long-narrow-faced! Unfortunately Google image search mostly returns him making faces like "doofy" and "gormless" and not faces like "stony" or "troubled" or "worshipful" or "barely containing violent urges" or "experiencing traumatic flashbacks" or anything useful for a Bothari.

Yeah, when Nightcrawler comes out Jake Gyllenhaal might provide some really good Bothari icons (I think he's my favorite candidate so far?), but it's not coming out for another two months and that's probably too long to wait :/ Maybe an acceptable range could be scraped from one of the trailers until then?

I have now watched the Nightcrawler trailer.* (With the sound off, which made figuring out what the movie was about an interestingly bewildering prospect. XD) I do not think I could extract sufficient Bothari from it. Also it made me waver on whether Gyllenhaal is really that Bothari-like in it - he looks a very different kind of gaunt than he did in google image search, and it is a much less Bothari-like kind. Armitage might be winning this race so far. He just has such a good nose/eyes/brows combo, and I have the distinct impression that it would be easy to come up with a good range of Bothari faces from him. He'd be better if he had a longer/narrower face, but I can probably carefully select icons to downplay that deficiency.

Does anyone know anyone who equals Armitage in the nose and glare-apparatus competitions while exceeding him in the long-narrow-face competition? XD

*One of them. Tamieeeeeen you edit your posts while I am responding to theeeeeem XD

Edit on watching second trailer: Okay, that's much more promising. He definitely has the "intense, haunted eyes" part down, and some of those shots were very Bothari-able. But I don't think I can glean a workable icon set from those trailers alone. Five more like them, maybe.

I do! I'm sorry, would it be better if I just made multiposts instead? I try to vet posts thoroughly before posting but frequently still find things to add/change afterward >>

That's fair, he did come across a bit differently in the videos than he did in the images. But I thought he made a good range of "stoic in a creepy way" and "angrily smashing a mirror" type faces that I could see being Botharish, so I thought it was worth checking. The sounds are mostly lots of car screeching and people talking in urgent tones about NEWS and MURDER and CATCHPHRASES so I don't think you missed all that much. The movie seems to be about a guy who wants to be a photojournalist and is willing to be unethical about it?

I do not know of anyone who equals Armitage in the nose/glare categories while beating him in the long-narrow-face category, so unless someone else comes forward soon, he is probably the best bet if you think you can find icons that exaggerate his face length/narrowness.

ETA: Ha-ha, you have turned the tables! He definitely has the intense, haunted eyes thing going. But, yeah, you wouldn't be able to get a full suite of icons from just the trailers, so it would have to be a stopgap for the next few months, and if Bothari is going to need to be emoting a lot in the meantime then obviously that won't work.