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Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:29 pm
by pedromvilar
Moriwen wrote:Great, now you've got me thinking about reasons you couldn't just masochism-bootstrap!
- One of the coins you started with was a defanged star and you used it to wish really good mental defenses; now you can't edit your own brain with wishcoins.
- Someone else put anti-mint protocols in place (to maintain their empire?) that include a wish preventing anyone from wishing to be (being?) a masochist
- You're from some non-human species with much lower sensation-processing power; you just aren't capable of experiencing any sensation more intense than pentagons, and a wish to do so would be major structural editing to your brain
- You've never heard of the concept of masochism before, and "enjoy experiencing pain" is a weird enough concept not to occur to you on its own
- You can make yourself as masochist-y as you want but don't have a way to inflict much pain without risking death (you're unusually medically fragile; maybe a heart condition, so just using an agony beam isn't a solution?)
Not thrilled with any of those, though.
- None of the characters I've considered for this setting (Sadde and Chell, really) would think to wish for that as their first wish
- Something along these lines was what I had in mind, I'll elaborate later
- Meh
- Both characters are smart enough to not let that stop them
- Meh
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:30 pm
by pedromvilar
Kappa wrote:The restriction has not been relaxed: if you directly use a coin to generate pain, that doesn't work, but if you use a coin to give yourself a permanent pain generation power, that does. This will still not help you bootstrap past pentagons.
Why not?
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:34 pm
by Kappa
You can't use a pentagon to give yourself a permanent pain generation power. We haven't ruled on temporary pain generation powers, but you could easily decide that for your purposes they were not coinable.
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:01 pm
by DanielH
There were still the coin generation "calculators" before that.
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:48 pm
by Kappa
Oh, that's true. Yes, if you manage to think of the "calculator" angle, it'll work.
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:10 pm
by pedromvilar
DanielH wrote:There were still the coin generation "calculators" before that.
What were those? I forget
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:13 pm
by atheistcanuck
pedromvilar wrote:DanielH wrote:There were still the coin generation "calculators" before that.
What were those? I forget
also from amounts of dragons, a thingy with buttons corresponding to different coins that inflict the appropriate amount of pain on whoever presses the button.
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:38 am
by DanielH
I wonder how confusing it will be to have Fresh Start’s Willow played by you when presumably she is not a member of your Willow template.
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:45 am
by pedromvilar
To me, not confusing at all, I don't think? They're really really really different characters.
Re: Pedro's Point
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:50 am
by DanielH
I just find name collisions, or even near-collisions, confusing sometimes. It can’t really be helped though.